Strange behavior of labels

[gking]

I use a simple hierarchy to describe my pictures.

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Up till now I always saw only the child category after I labelled a picture.

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Now suddenly - it could be in connection with the update to build 2.2.0.1036- I see the child category and the hierarchy (but only for recently modified pictures, the old ones still show only the child category)

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Is this a new feature or did I inadvertently change something?

best regards Gunther

[Hert]

Hi Gunter,

First of all, I've changed your name here on the forum in order to prevent you from receiving excessive spam emails. So make sure that you now login with username gking

I think you may have switched on the option for "Parent Assign" in the details of the catalog label. I don't know what the German term is but find it in the catalog label that you assign, by right clicking on the catalog label and then open the details of the label.

[gking]

Thank you from saving me from spam ( I should have known better).
I am not aware that I fiddled around with "Parent Assign". My current settings are

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Another point that makes me wonder if this is a Photo Supreme internal thing: at least for me the ExifTool outputs of the two pictures (see attachments) don't explain why the labels are shown differently. "[xmp] subject" for example is identical in both pictures.

Best regards Gunther

[Hert]

Gunter,
Can you try if this still happens after running this small script;

1. Open Tools->Scripter
2. Copy Paste the little script below

Code: Select all

Catalog.RebuildRecursivePropTree;
Say ('Done');

3. Run the script with the Run button in the Scripter.

Wait for it to finish

If that doesn't fix it then can you send me a copy of your database file (no need for the thumbs, only the .cat.db file)? If so, you can send it to support@idimager.com using a file sharing service like Google Drive, MS OneDrive, DropBox, or any other.

thank you
Hert

[gking]

Hert,

the script did not fix it. I uploaded my database to DropBox and sent you a link.

Best regard
Gunther

[Hert]

Hi Gunter,
Thank you for the database. However, I don't see anything wrong. I can assign each of these 4 catalog labels individually and no other assignments are made.
I also checked if there's been tempered directly in the database but nothing of that kind that I can see.

Could it be that you have assigned catalog labels by hand? Maybe you did something that assigned labels without you realizing it (e.g. maybe you dragged labels over thumbs, or you dragged thumbs over labels, or...)?

If you can reproduce unexpected behaviour, then can you provide steps to do so?

Hert

[gking]

Hi Hert,

Thank you for your quick answer.
I just spotted something that may help to explain (at least for you) whats going on:
Under "Miscellaneous" I found a list of categories/labels which obviously reflects (part of) my hierarchy. I have no idea what I did to "fill in" this list.

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best regards
Gunther

[Hert]

Hi Gunther,

When keywords are read from the image file's metadata and there's no hierarchical information available then they will be placed in the Miscellaneous category.

Apparently your images have keywords that are stored with a delimiter; am I right that the forward slash is used as the delimiter? If you want recreate the catalog structures based on delimited keywords then you should enable the delimited keyword option in Preferences.

Please control what you're doing. Don't import your full image archive yet until you have configured the application they way you need it.

If you really have delimited keywords then I would recommend;
1. Delete your existing catalog and start again
2. Enable the Delimited keyword reading in Preferences -> Synchronisation -> Read Settings
3. Set the correct delimited (the slash?)
4. Import a single folder, not your full archive...keep it small so you can quickly verify the results
5. Check if you get your hierarchies

Does that work?

[gking]

Thank you Hert for your help,

after I understood what I did wrong, it was easier for me to correct a few hundred pictures than to rebuild the whole database of 11.000+ pictures.

By the way I think I did run into this problem because I still have to reread the metadata from the file after geotagging each picture (see topic "Problem with geo-tagging"). At some point I thoughtlessly changed the setting for the delimiter in Preferences -> Synchronisation -> Read Settings and began to build up "Miscellaneous" labels with each read of metadata from the files.

best regards
Gunther

[Hert]

because I still have to reread the metadata from the file after geotagging each picture

Did you report that to the developers of your GEO tagging application already?

[gking]

I don't use an external Geo tagging application. The built in Geo tagging in Photo Supreme is perfect for me (apart from this minor bug)

Gunther