why now a category "Objects" ???

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fbungarz
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why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by fbungarz » 11 Jun 21 19:25

I just noticed that since version 6 my catalog now includes a new category called "Objects" That is apparently a default and cannot be deleted.
Where did that come from???
What purpose does it serve?

The irony:
I already previously DID have such a category "objects" and now I do have two!
One without ANY labels (apparently added as a new default category in V6)...
... and another one, which is the one I created myself years ago.

Would it make sense to merge the two and if so, how?
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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by Mke » 11 Jun 21 20:44

'Objects' has been a part of the default structure on my machine for years, so not sure why it's only just turned up on yours? Unless it's because you had deleted it.

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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by G8DHE » 11 Jun 21 21:34

Indeed, its been there since I started using IDImager!
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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by snowman1 » 12 Jun 21 0:00

A number of the built in categories have special meaning/treatment within PSU - though I don't know off the top of my head if objects is one of them - if you can identify which is which it would be advisable to merge labels and images from the "non-built-in" object category into the built-in one.
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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by Mke » 12 Jun 21 13:49

According to the manual, it's only special in that 'Automatically detected Objects or Landmarks, based by Artificial Intelligence, are placed in this category'. In practice there are (at least?) two additional features:

1) The name of labels in the 'Objects' hierearchy are written into the metadata field 'Iptc4xmpExt:ArtworkOrObject.Iptc4xmpExt:AOTitle'.
2) New in V6 is that only labels in the People, Objects, and Places categories can be manually* linked to 'Areas' within a photo (the old 'face area' tags) - just discovered this in a reply to my report on on Mantis.

*they'll still link automatically by dragging and dropping, thankfully.

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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by fbungarz » 12 Jun 21 21:50

Yes, I know and I had Objects for years. So, I don't understand, why I now have it twice, once as the "default" that I cannot delete (and which is completely empty) and the one that has 2017 images assigned to a ton of different labels.
This makes no sense to me.

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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by Hert » 13 Jun 21 9:22

You probably deleted the original Objects category years ago and at one point recreated it.
To move your labels from the old Objects category to the original one:
1. Expand the old Objects category
2. Select all labels, with Ctrl+Click
3. Drag them to the original Objects category
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Re: why now a category "Objects" ???

Post by fbungarz » 14 Jun 21 3:20

OK, which means, I then need to re-sync ca. 2,000 images :?
But, OK...
:mrgreen:

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