RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

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neilmwhite
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RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 22 Feb 21 22:01

Since upgrade to PS6 (from PS3), it does not seem to recognise photos that were taken as both RAW and JPG as being linked. Consequently I am seeing 2 effects from this:

1. all files are displayed separately so if I import fifty photos, instead of seeing 50 thumbnails I will see 100 and I can not get them to display as 50 only.
2. If I assign labels to the RAW files the JPG versions are not being updated.

I've tried to work out where I need to reset this, but can't see it at the moment.

And what can I do to correct it for the files I have imported so far since the upgrade.

Thanks

Neil

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 23 Feb 21 9:36

Neil,
Can you confirm, that the correct Version/Stacking rules are set in the preferences?
Can you confirm, that in the import dialog (all the way down) apply Versioning and or apply stacking is checked?

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 23 Feb 21 10:29

Hi Michael,

These (screenshots) are my Catalog and Import Settings:

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsQ8yqDJVybhrnOt1xp ... k?e=DngPUc

I did change the Catalog Settings - Versioning so that Main version detection was "RAW first else JPG" but that made no difference.

I checked but made no change to the Import settings.

Neil

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 23 Feb 21 12:29

Looks right to me...
Maybe Hert can chime in.

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by Hert » 23 Feb 21 13:43

In your version settings you've set the folder offset folder to "Current folder". Are the files that you'd like to have versions (the imported files) stored in the same folder?
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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 23 Feb 21 14:18

I just tried it here on my system and it works as expected...
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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 23 Feb 21 18:34

I have a custom import script which puts the .jpg files in a different folder to the RAW files. It worked and PS recognised the link between them in PS2 and PS3, but has stopped recognising the link now. Because the RAW files I so much larger I keep them separately. Not been a problem before.

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 23 Feb 21 19:31

Neil,
When the file that should be veriosned is not in the same folder, you need to change the setting in the preferences to parent Folder and Sibling Folders or even Root Folder. Otherwise it wont work...

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 24 Feb 21 12:18

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the suggestion. I changed the preferences as suggested, ran an import of RAW+JPG files and still the same. Assigning labels to the RAW versions did not result in those labels being applied to the JPG versions. Any other suggestions?

Neil

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 24 Feb 21 18:01

Neil,
can you share your folder structure?

File path for Raw
File path for jpg

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 26 Feb 21 11:25

The Path for the RAW files is:
E:\Photo Libraries\Originals\Raw Library IV\2021-02\08 (the final parts of the path are month and week of year which are generated as part of the custom parameters)
For JPEG files the folder structure is dependent on the camera - I have an import profile for each camera type
E:\Photo Libraries\Originals\JPEG\Panasonic TZ-90\2021-02\08 (final 2 levels are as per RAW parameters)

This little bit of script runs to split the RAW and JPG files:

if Not ImageItem.IsRaw then
result := 'JPEG\Panasonic TZ-90\'
else
result := 'Raw Library IV\';

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by weidmic » 28 Feb 21 14:19

Neil,

So for this folder structure, sibling or parent wont work - as per my understanding.
With the setting root, I don't know if PSU is suposed to query 'all possible' folders or only for images in the root folders.
If it would query all folder on the drive, this could possibly take a long time.

hmmm... I don't know if PSU is supposed to find this image

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by neilmwhite » 28 Feb 21 20:22

Thanks for your investigations and opinions Michael - but the same structure and scripts worked in PS2 and PS3 so I am reluctant to redesign my folders to accommodate changes in PS. I decided it was time to upgrade because of the performance improvements and those have been noticeable for me.

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Re: RAW and JPG files no longer linked on import

Post by Hert » 28 Feb 21 22:16

In V2 the version detection for importing files was configured in the Import Profile. Since V4 that changed and version detection rules are configured in the Preference settings. Make sure that you configure the version detection in the Preferences correctly. Please share a screenshot of the Preferences -> Catalog -> Versioning) how you've configured the version detection.
1. all files are displayed separately so if I import fifty photos, instead of seeing 50 thumbnails I will see 100 and I can not get them to display as 50 only.
Are these files versioned or not?

Apart from this I'd also like to point out the Preference setting for "Version Set Display". That wasn't available yet in V2 or V3. Those versions behaved like "As a set in categories"

2. If I assign labels to the RAW files the JPG versions are not being updated.
If your RAW and JPG files are not versioned then a label assigned to the RAW will not be assigned to the JPG. Can you share a screenshot of your files?
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