Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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JensSteyer
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Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

Post by JensSteyer »

Hello Hert,

Yesterday I marked some pictures and (once again) accidentally clicked on the button to rotate the pictures: Of course, all the pictures rotated. :oops:
This button in the picture really bothers me because I never use it to rotate a finished picture. I am therefore asking for a way to deactivate this rotation of the pictures with a mouse click in the settings.

Many thanks in advance, Jens

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G8DHE
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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Perhaps a simple confirmation request panel ? I've done this myself in the past especially when working on a laptop with a touch panel and undoing a large number of selected images isn't the fastest of operations :-(
Geoff Mather (G8DHE)
JensSteyer
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

Post by JensSteyer »

I feel the same as you, Geoff.

I work a lot with touch and yesterday I accidentally rotated several images again. It's really annoying that you can so easily touch the fields for rotating the image by mistake and then the action is carried out immediately.
RobiWan
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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Hmm, new Build

6597; Using the on-thumb rotation icons now prompt to start the rotation

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Option ca be disabled
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johnbarrett
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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Good as I also have done it but never worked out how or how-to bulk move them back
JensSteyer
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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johnbarrett wrote: 25 Jul 24 3:49 Good as I also have done it but never worked out how or how-to bulk move them back
This option doesn't seem to exist either, which is why I found the old version of rotating the image immediately and without asking to be really dangerous - it could cause a lot of unnecessary work...

The new version now asks whether the rotation should really be carried out. Thank you Hert and thanks to Robert for his tip. :)

Dear Hert, perhaps there will be a way in the future to completely deactivate this rotation in the general settings? You can turn it back on there if necessary. (A photographer like me never uses rotation in the image management anyway, my images are already finished before importing into PSU.)
Thanks in advance. :)
G8DHE
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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You can do a block by simply selecting all the ones you want and then just rotating one of them it does it for the selected ones, but do wait as they are done in background. Haven't checked with the latest release and the confirmation that it still does it!
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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I've had to use the rotation feature lately because, for some reason, some of the thumbnails in PhotoSupreme aren't in the orientation of the actual file. Usually it's a vertical file that is rotted 90 degrees in PS. If I open one of these wrongly oriented files in an external editor it looks fine but the thumbnail in PS is wrong. Rotating the thumbnail fixes the issue and doesn't affect the image in the editor...which in this case is Affinity Photo 2.
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

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wesstl wrote: 02 Aug 24 15:26 I've had to use the rotation feature lately because, for some reason, some of the thumbnails in PhotoSupreme aren't in the orientation of the actual file. Usually it's a vertical file that is rotted 90 degrees in PS. If I open one of these wrongly oriented files in an external editor it looks fine but the thumbnail in PS is wrong. Rotating the thumbnail fixes the issue and doesn't affect the image in the editor...which in this case is Affinity Photo 2.
This is a bug that has been occurring in PSU for a long time and I can confirm it 100%.
Hert
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Re: Big request: Possibility to deactivate image rotation with a mouse click

Post by Hert »

This is a bug that has been occurring in PSU for a long time and I can confirm it 100%.
There are several (RAW) editing software products out there that do a bad job in managing metadata. Unfortunate but understandable as they are editor and metadata is of less relevance for them. But PSU (and other DAMs for that matter) is all about metadata and if something is wrong in the metadata then the DAM is the place where you will typically be confronted with this.

When it comes to orientation, some editing tools (I'm not going to name them here) fail to write the correct orientation tag in the metadata at all and some write the correct orientation in Exif but fail to write the orientation tag in XMP if there is XMP, leaving you with misaligned metadata.

In general it should be safe to assume that if you see a wrong orientation in PSU that it there is something wrong in the metadata. PSU loads the file and applies the orientation that it finds in the XMP. If there is no XMP then it reads it from Exif (PSU *always* uses the highest level metadata first, which is XMP). If there is existing XMP but the XMP holds no or wrong orientation tag compared to Exif then you'll see such discrepancy instantly in PSU.

If you experience this then:
1. First use "Metadata -> Convert metadata to XMP" to make sure that your XMP metadata is the same as the Exif (many tools fail to update XMP)
2. Manually update the thumb
3. If the orientation is still wrong then use the rotation button to correct it.

Since these steps first make sure that there's no discrepancy in the metadata you can rely on the orientation being correct at all levels after these steps.
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