GPS data and PSU

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Tom
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GPS data and PSU

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I just wish to confirm that PSU works very nicely in connection to Geosetter, the latter set as an external application in PSU. I think it was a good choice by the IDImager guys to reduce the number of internal modules in favour of external applications. I even doubt about the need for the "Adjust" module. At least I never use it.

Tom
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Re: GPS data and PSU

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Hi Tom

I am afraid I must both agree and disagree with you here.

I also use Geosetter to tag my images and in Supreme the changes made in Geosetter are NOT automatically picked up by Supreme (unlike in V5). You need to manually "import" the changes made in Geosetter into Supreme. I think that Supreme should be able to detect changes made by external applications if the decision not to integrate essential cataloguing features (like Geo and Face Tagging) has been made.

I do however agree with you on the Adjust - Supreme is NOT an Image Editor or a Digital Asset Manager but a Cataloguing tool and as such I never use the adjust to edit my images. BUT I do feel that Geotagging/Geo Cataloguing is part of Cataloguing and should (like Face Tagging/Cataloguing) be an integral part of a Cataloguing Tool.

But I do understand the development teams decision to focus on the Keyword cataloguing element of Supreme rather than the Geo and Face elements. But hopefully in the future there will be tighter integration with external applications and the ability to read other industry data tags into Supreme (Like People Tags from Picasa and MWG tags).

MikeP
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Tom
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Re: GPS data and PSU

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Mike, thanks

I just found that it is possible to geotag the catalog labels in PSU -- I did not know that. Very nice feature for e.g. places, even that geographically it is not very correct (so to say, "places" have usually "bigger size" than the points provided by GPS coordinates). However, there is even a radius feature, which I did not yet understand, how does it work.

Regarding the Geosetter integration: the co-ordinates are picked via synchronization process of the image metadata. Save to metadata in Geosetter, sync in PSU.

Tom
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Re: GPS data and PSU

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Hi Tom
Save to metadata in Geosetter, sync in PSU.
Aye - There's the rub. :-)

In V5 it was merely Save Metadata in Geosetter - and sit back and watch IDimager pick-up the changes.

AFAIK the radius feature is used for "auto assigning" catalog labels based on Geo Co Ordinates. I think it looks at the existing Co Ordinates - check how "close" they are (radius) to the Co Ordinates allocated to the catalogue label - and reverse Geo Lookups the Catalogue labels. (Assign Geo Labels - in Import Module)

Regards

MikeP
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Woodie
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Re: GPS data and PSU

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mphillips wrote:Hi Tom

I am afraid I must both agree and disagree with you here.

I also use Geosetter to tag my images and in Supreme the changes made in Geosetter are NOT automatically picked up by Supreme (unlike in V5). You need to manually "import" the changes made in Geosetter into Supreme. I think that Supreme should be able to detect changes made by external applications if the decision not to integrate essential cataloguing features (like Geo and Face Tagging) has been made.

I do however agree with you on the Adjust - Supreme is NOT an Image Editor or a Digital Asset Manager but a Cataloguing tool and as such I never use the adjust to edit my images. BUT I do feel that Geotagging/Geo Cataloguing is part of Cataloguing and should (like Face Tagging/Cataloguing) be an integral part of a Cataloguing Tool.

But I do understand the development teams decision to focus on the Keyword cataloguing element of Supreme rather than the Geo and Face elements. But hopefully in the future there will be tighter integration with external applications and the ability to read other industry data tags into Supreme (Like People Tags from Picasa and MWG tags).

MikeP
Agree, adjusting is a waste in a DAM or cataloging program as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, my question/comment relates to geo coordinates. Since SU can be set to link to external editors (which I do), I tried adding Google Earth as an external program hoping that I could pass the geo info that is already in the image metadata to Google Earth and it would take me to the location. Google Earth opened ok but apparently no geo data was passed along since it didn't go anywhere. I just wondered if you or anyone else knew of a convenient way to transfer the coordinates that are already in the metadata from SU to Google Earth? Maybe that wasn't clear. I want to select an image in SU that has geo data and send it to Google Earth just as I might send it to and editing program. I don't want to bring the geo data into SU, it's already there when I import, but want to send it out to Google Earth.

I also have Geosetter on my system so I will try that now that I see it mentioned.
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Woodie wrote: I just wondered if you or anyone else knew of a convenient way to transfer the coordinates that are already in the metadata from SU to Google Earth?
I do not know about Google Earth, but opening in Google Maps is possible, although it is very hidden in PSU. When you open calalog label > right-click > details, you see geo location at the bottom of the details panel. The right colourful button shows the location of the label in google maps. I understand that it is not the location of the image, but the location of the catalog label. A bit weird, but works for places lookup (provided you have geo-tagged the images with an external software).
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Tom wrote:
Woodie wrote: I just wondered if you or anyone else knew of a convenient way to transfer the coordinates that are already in the metadata from SU to Google Earth?
I do not know about Google Earth, but opening in Google Maps is possible, although it is very hidden in PSU. When you open calalog label > right-click > details, you see geo location at the bottom of the details panel. The right colourful button shows the location of the label in google maps. I understand that it is not the location of the image, but the location of the catalog label. A bit weird, but works for places lookup (provided you have geo-tagged the images with an external software).
I don't see geo location at the bottom of the details panel. If I select an image and click the details icon at the bottom right to bring up the details on the right side of the screen, the latitude and longitude are given in the Technical info. If I go to Catalog>by Image Details on the left side, I don't see anything about geo data. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place.
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You are not looking in the right place. I don't have PSU in this computer, and can not tell exactly. But the geo location which I spoke about applies to catalogue labels, not to images. You should look for details of the catalogue labels. It is done in the left panel, right mouse click on a label name and select details.

Tom
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Re: GPS data and PSU

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Tom wrote:You are not looking in the right place. I don't have PSU in this computer, and can not tell exactly. But the geo location which I spoke about applies to catalogue labels, not to images. You should look for details of the catalogue labels. It is done in the left panel, right mouse click on a label name and select details.

Tom
Found it. This won't help me. I have GPS info in the metadata already and want to locate that image on a map.

Thanks for trying.
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