Why Photo Supreme?

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wesstl
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Why Photo Supreme?

Post by wesstl » 06 May 16 18:30

I'm interested in hearing users' reasons for choosing Photo Supreme over "do it all" apps like Lightroom and Capture One. I know there's the "#1 reason" thread but those are very general replies, not specific enough. What features does PS have or do better than Lightroom that keeps you using it?
And, please, I don't need these answers: " Because I hate Adobe" or I refuse to pay Adobe's subscription fees "etc. I'd like some specific features because I'm in the process of recommending tools to some folks and I'd like to explain this choice. Thank you.

Mke
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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by Mke » 06 May 16 19:54

In short, because Lightroom, Capture one, etc. don't "do it all". They're don't provide full DAM capabilities, they just bolt on a few lightweight features to satisfy casual users. Why use Photoshop instead of MS Paint?

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by PhilBurton » 06 May 16 20:47

wesstl wrote:I'm interested in hearing users' reasons for choosing Photo Supreme over "do it all" apps like Lightroom and Capture One. I know there's the "#1 reason" thread but those are very general replies, not specific enough. What features does PS have or do better than Lightroom that keeps you using it?
And, please, I don't need these answers: " Because I hate Adobe" or I refuse to pay Adobe's subscription fees "etc. I'd like some specific features because I'm in the process of recommending tools to some folks and I'd like to explain this choice. Thank you.
I use Lightroom for my RAW convertor and it does a great job for that.

Lightroom's file renaming feature has a seqn option, but the seqn does not reset every time the date changes. This requires me to do a second renaming once pictures have been sorted into date-specific folders. Lightroom does not support custom XMP, despite a history of years worth of discussions about a need for that. Photo Supreme adds colors to folders to add in workflow or other ways to sort images.

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Home built i7 3930, 32 GB RAM, Win 10 Pro 64, latest version of Photo Supreme 3, Lightroom 6 and Photoshop CS 6 (perpetual licenses)

Preston B
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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by Preston B » 06 May 16 21:07

I do not use Lightroom, Capture One, or Adobe Bridge. Because of this, I started using ID Imager, which later became Photo Supreme as a way to manage my images. Honestly, there are too many features that I use in PSu to enumerate here, but I will say they suit my me very well and in a stable and responsive manner.

I suggest that you, and/ or the folks to whom you are recommending DAM tools to download the trial version, install it and use it. In my opinion, that is best way to evaluate whether or not a specific application will 'get the job done'.
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HaraldE
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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by HaraldE » 08 May 16 12:45

Morning,

These are my key reasons / functions why I use PSU.
> Has enough basic image editing facilities (like CROP, STRAITHEN, RED EYES, ...) to sattisfy my needs
> A direct link to my internet place of choice which is Smugmug
> Stable and rich in functions ... of course there are items I do wish were included, but they are no showstoppers
> A full set of tools so I can easily create collections in any way I want
> Ability to add / change meta data, mainly decsription and date taken
> Filtering so I easily can find a set of photos with a specific word or text without the need to specify exactly where it is stored
> A positive and live forum .. this very one
> Flexible way to mark (often temporarily) a set of images, using stars and colours
> The Image Basket I use a lot
> A Catalog menu that lets me view status and specific sets of image, like duplicates
> When I want to show a collection to an audience I connect to any TV and use it as a second monitor
> The backup facility is used on a regular basis. Can not remember when I ever had to do a Restore
> Have rcently started to use the Geo panel ... done some experiments. All with a good result
> The Light Table is of very good use when I have some similar images to study
> Batch is use infrequently but is the tool to add my name in bottom corner when I decide to give away some images

The list could be longer but I will stop there

The only time when I need to use another tool is when I need to stitch to make panorama images

Regards, Harald

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by space » 12 May 16 10:02

In a word, PS is one of the best keywording apps around.

For a longer story, use multiple apps to manage my image archive. Use Bridge to "ingest" my images, to rename images and apply basic metadata - metadata off templates and Bridge is one of the few apps that "preserves" the original image/camera generated file names in the XMP file. Next, Photo Supreme to keyword, select and markup my images. After this, use Capture One to process RAW files and save my "master images" as 16 bit TIFFs. Next, use PS CC to fine tune my master files. Finally, use LR to manage the delivery of my finished images. Nothing like keeping my RAW files and finished work separate and apart.

Do I wish there was one app to handle all this? Of course. But, can't see this happening any time soon. A decade or so has passed since making my first inroads into the digital realm. Little seems to have changed from that time to this - perception being what it is.

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by fbungarz » 12 May 16 14:13

Here my reasons (things that as far as I know are not on offer in other programs):

- quick and efficient way to assign/remove labels (using the assign panel)
- extremely powerful labels (i.e. "keywords" that can be mapped to automatically write to XMP fields, assign GEO coordinates, or even a fill in a whole series of XMP fields); I know know other program at all, which does offer this!
- support for custom XMP (in my case esp. DarwinCore XMP; allows me to very efficiently manage photos of specimens from Natural History Collections)
- versioning support (keeps a set of derivatives files with the original image file and manages this set together; use versions for specific purposes)
- powerful search capabilities to quickly find photos according to their metadata
- powerful Geo-tagging (not only manual, but also via labels)
- highly flexible thumbs info (can be configured to quickly show most important info about an image)
- one of the best programs to inspect metadata
- familiarity (long history of having used IDI before and got well accustomed how the program works)
- this very active user forum here, with a lot of people helping one another
- dedicated developer, who strives to find the best compromise between serving customer requests and not overburden the program, a compromise difficult to navigate

A few things that I miss or hope can (or will be) be improved (by priority):

- option to automatically keep all metadata the same across images of a version set (or at least shortcut to cascade metadata quickly)
- option to cascade technical metadata (if so desired)
- full version support including placeholder mapping during image import.
- more powerful/flexible re-naming capabilities during image import, especially when it comes to re-name versions.
- more flexibility to quickly filter specific versions (not just the main one) and add option to associate a particular placeholder with a specific program (e.g., a particular version automatically opens in a specific external editor...)
- option to generate a subversion on the fly, assign it to a placeholder of choice and open it in external program
- improved version detection (specifically during import, but also afterwards, with option to search across different folders)
- incremental backup (i.e., option to update most recent changes from one copy of a catalog to the other)
- speed up larger catalogs...
- more powerful support to modify print templates, particularly the option to add captions from metadata fields (incl. custom fields)
- slideshow (not just the light table), particularly to generate a standalone movie with option to add captions from metadata fields (incl. custom fields)

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by Maxometr » 12 May 16 18:34

So then there is no alternative . Because PS

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by FritzM » 11 Oct 17 15:44

Maxometr wrote:
12 May 16 18:34
So then there is no alternative . Because PS
I don't think there is an alternative is there?

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by Phosy » 11 Oct 17 20:19

PSu is running on a server with Multi User Access! Adobe LR etc. doesn’t!

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Re: Why Photo Supreme?

Post by Stubb » 12 Oct 17 16:23

A couple reasons for me, in no particular order:
  • I use DxO for my raw raw processing, and PSU reflects basic DxO edits (rotation, cropping, etc.) when generating thumbnails for images edited with DXO in PSU.
  • Active forum with knowledgable users.
  • Hert has been very responsive, helpful, and patient when I've emailed him with problems I'm having with PSU.

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