Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

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Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by Less » 14 Oct 17 19:19

My photos are all identified with IPTC:Date Created set to the date the photo was taken. This is per IPTC standards that I learned about years ago when I first started cataloging my family photos in IMatch.. This field seems to have correctly come over into the XMP:Photosop:DateCreated field, which is labeled "Description Date" in the details window.

The date seems to also be the "photo date" because I have my thumbnails set to display

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taken: %dd - %mmm - %YYYY
and that shows up just fine.

This falls apart when I request to have thumbnails sorted by "photo date" - thumbnail display "photo date" isn't the same "photo date" used for the sort order.

You can see on the screenshot how I have my custom thumbnail defined, the sort order that I have chosen, and the dates that show up on the thumbnails, and that they are not at all in ascending photo date order. This seems to be due to the fact that on the vast majority of my images, the exif:datetime fields are blank.
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Is there a way to define a thumbnail sort that will look at the xmp:photoshop:datecreated field? That's really all I want, just to be able to sort the thumbnails in order by the date the photo was taken.

Thanks!
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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by DirkS » 14 Oct 17 21:33

I think that should be possible by using 'sort by macro command'

Select View button, then Sort and Script.
That should show a pop-up with 'Macro Command' at the bottom.
This opens a dialog where all the metadata fields should be available (click on the dotted button at the right or enter the name manually)
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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by Less » 15 Oct 17 21:45

I hadn't investigated the macro command option, sounded like a great idea. Doesn't seem to work though. I've tried multiple combinations:
%YYYY%mm%dd (which should give me 19010101 and 19050325 etc, and be easy to sort on - but nah, doesn't fix the sort. I tried multiple arrangements of those date fields, again, the EXACT SAME ONES that I use successfully to show the date on the thumbnail, and it just does not change the sort order.

Dates in metadata make me insane. ALL I want is the "date the photo was taken" to be easy to input and modify and use as a sort field.
Oh well.

As an alternative:
Is there a way to copy the current date taken into all of the other date fields? It's the only date I care about, and since PSu seems to use different dates at different times based on whatever logic I can't comprehend, I just want to push the xmp:datecreated into the other date fields - all in one go. It doesn't seem that there is a way via the interface, is there a way via scripting - that I'm not clever enough to figure out or write by myself and would need total hand holding?
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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by jstartin » 15 Oct 17 22:57

This post by Hert might help you gain a better understanding of "Photodate" viewtopic.php?f=57&t=22960&p=103498&hil ... te#p103498
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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by Less » 19 Oct 17 21:23

Thanks Jim, I had studied that post before I posted my question, because it seems either incomplete or quirky at the very least.

The PhotoDate macro filed as applied to thumbnail custom info is showing XMP:Photoshop:DateCreated, which, in my case, came from IPTC:DateCreated, and is the only date that I care about.

That feature does not carry over to any of the photodate sorting capabilities, and of course the info screen is either blank or filled with other exif dates that got created over the years of me managing my photos with other programs. I'm trying to get everything cleaned up, and was hoping that PhotoSupreme would both clean things up and be my long term solution, since it does so many things so well.

I have at last dug far enough into the sort macro command to find the ability to sort by xmp:photoshop:datecreated so at least I can get the thumbnails to sort properly. For now that will have to be enough.

I'd still like a way to cascade the datecreated field into the exif:datetimeoriginal, but maybe I can find another program to do that.
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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by sanphotgn » 20 Oct 17 13:48

Less wrote:
19 Oct 17 21:23
I'd still like a way to cascade the datecreated field into the exif:datetimeoriginal, but maybe I can find another program to do that.
I believe there is a way you can do this within Photo Supreme. I tried it here and it appears to work. If you try this, please try on copies of copies, instead of originals.

You will need the Import CSV Data script:

http://repository.idimager.com/openreso ... D96EA3BFD6

Steps:

- Select the photos you want to update.

- Right click - Metadata - Export Metadata To CSV File.

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- Select Description Date (photoshop:DateCreated). (The location of Description Date may vary depending on which View you have enabled for the Details panel. I have the Advanced view enabled. If you do not see the Description Date in the Details panel, you need to enable a View that includes the Description Date.)

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- Click on OK - save.

- Deselect the photos. (Probably not necessary, but I had done this.)

- Go to Menu in Photo Supreme: Tools - Scripter.

- Go to Menu in Scripter: File - Open Script - locate Import CSV Data script. (There is a button in the toolbar that corresponds to "open script", which one can use.)

- The script should be visible in the Scripter.

- Go to Menu in Scripter: Run - Run. (There is a button in the toolbar that corresponds to "run script", which one can use.)

- The graphical interface for the Import CSV Data script should be visible.

- Locate the CSV file created when the metadata was exported - "First line holds column names" should be enabled - Delimiter should be "Comma ," - Filename Link Column should be FileName - Link "FileName" to should be "(don't link)" - Link "photoshop:DateCreated" to ... click on the down arrow to choose field ... under exif ... exif:DateTimeOriginal - Start Import.

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Re: Can I sort thumbnails by Date Created?

Post by Less » 20 Oct 17 14:34

Thanks, I will give that a try.
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